Posts Tagged ‘a380’
I’ll tell you, I have no objection in particular about Airbus A380 superjumbo jets flying into and out of SFO, but over the past few years the arrival of this a/c got oversold, way oversold, by SFO, the old mayor’s office and the new mayor’s office.
Where’s your Messiah now, SFO?
Oh, here it is, at the Paris Air Show, bumping into buildings ‘n stuff. Sacre Bleu – Une Autre Allision!
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(Don’t call it a wing fence (or winglet or sharklet) the way some journalists do, oh no, call it a wingtip fence. Thusly: “The Superjumbo jet just lost another wingtip fence.)
“While the crew had been informed that the taxiway was clear for the A380, said Airbus, and the aircraft was on the centreline, it hit a building belonging to Aeroports de Paris.”
Hey SFO, why don’t you actually do something by getting your runways farther apart so you’ll be future-ready instead of just A380-ready?
Just asking, SFO Bro.
Well, here’s the latest from Business Report – The Chronicle with Bloomberg:
Uh, so I’m not saying that the powers that be shouldn’t have gotten ready for the long-delayed Airbus A380 jumbo jet, but this wasn’t all that much of a gutsy call, right? It’s like, should we prepare to accommodate the jets that are being planned for five-ten years from now?
O.K., so why not prepare? Sure. But I don’t know how much credit should go to the people of SFO for doing what they’re paid to do.
See? Some have three jetway thingees, some have two:
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In other news, the new A380 uses more fuel than any other airliner you could think of. So this is incorrect:
“It’s a much less fuel-consuming aircraft. It’s a much more efficient aircraft; it costs 30 percent less to operate than other wide bodies.”
And considering all the hype, the hype like this:
“The A380′s modernity, comfort and stylishness should help drive business between the Bay Area and overseas markets, said R. Sean Randolph, president and CEO of the Bay Area Council Economic Institute. Randolph said he thinks this is especially true of the burgeoning business relationship with India, which generates high transpacific traffic.”
…the A380 appears to be kind of a big nothingburger. You want to fly from India, you can do it on a Boeing 777 or an old 747 or, soon enough, the long-delayed new 747-8i. And in fact, if anything, the trend of rising fuel prices is making some airlines rethink the desirability of non-stop hops from faraway lands. And “stylishness?” You know, I’d just love to make business with you there, Reddy, but that triple-seven they want me to fly over on, well, it just doesn’t do it for me, it’s not stylish at all, you know? I’ll wait until Airbus makes a fat piggy plane with wings that are too big (because they were designed for future stretched versions like the A380-900, or, Gaia help us, the mythical A380-1000. But, seeing as how the freighter version of the miraculous, wonderful, oh-my-God-this-changes-everything A380 got cancelled, it might be a good long time before the world sees a stretched A380…)
And speaking of the new 747, Lufthansa is also buying those as well, so maybe you’ll be on a Boeing the next time you fly to Frankfurt. IRL, Lufthansa calculates about a 3% delta in fuel economy per passenger betwixt the newish A380 and the impending Boeing 747-8i.
Anyway, the giant A380 jetliner does not necessarily prove SFO planners right, just saying.
Now, about those substandard runways…
SFO’s New Terminal Two is Just an Another Airport Terminal, SFO’s New Air France A380 Jet is Just Another JetTuesday, April 12th, 2011
Is new Terminal 2 at SFO really set to “dazzle?”
Sadly no. It’s just another airport terminal right? Let’s keep things in sperpective.
The other dazzling piece of news coming up from Millbrae is Air France saying it will fly in an A380 superjumbo daily from gay Paris during Tourist Season 2011.
The best guess is that the A380 burns about 3% per passenger less than the slightly smaller competition from Boeing. Is that something to get excited about? Not really.
Oh, here we go, here’s an Air France Airbus A380 making friends in New Yawk just yesterday. What a bully! (The YouTube view count just went from 303 views five minutes ago up to 17,000, so let’s call that going viral.)
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Them A380′s are big, non?
Let’s hope that SFO can manage these big rigs better than JFK!
Anyway, to review, SFO’s New Terminal Two is Just an Another Airport Terminal, SFO’s New Air France A380 Jet is Just Another Jet.
No alarms, no surprises…
“Air France Flight 7 F-HPJD bound for Paris, was taxiing on a runway when its left wingtip struck the tail of Comair Flight 6293, which had just landed from Boston and was taxiing to its gate at Kennedy, one of the nation’s busiest airports…”
Boeing Celebrates the First Flight of the New 747-8 Intercontinental Jumbo Jet – Does It Get Better MPG Than the Airbus A380?Monday, March 21st, 2011
Here it is, the latest VLA (Very Large Aircraft) to hit the skies. Get all the deets right here and be sure to check out the Flight Tracker – they flew over Port Angeles (and not too far from Forks, WA and La Push Beach (for you Twilight fans)).
The other VLA up there there is the Airbus A380 Superjumbo, which burns more fuel but has more seats. The test will be when you fill up both with maximum passengers and then fly a certain distance and then figure the fuel burn per passenger.
The A380 is a new plane but it’s kind of stubby and its engines are older than those on the freshened 747. Probably the A380 will win the mpg battle, but only by a few percentage points. And both manufacturers (but especially Airbus) might end up losing money on these programs. Oh well.
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Anyway, that’s current battle above your heads….
People, Turn Off Your iPods and Whatnot When You’re Below 10,000 Feet the Way They Tell You – Here’s WhyThursday, March 10th, 2011
Now it’s sort remarkable how no passenger has died the past decade in an Airbus or Boeing jetliner that either took off or landed in the United States. Of course there was the 9/11 and shortly after that at the end of 2001 there was American Airlines Flight 587, but since then, nothing. That’s a pretty good record, non?
But you people, you don’t listen when they tell you to turn off your portable electronic devices during critical phases of flight. And then stuff like this happens.
Just saying, bro-ham.
Ah the daily Lufthansa flight from Frankfort, Germany. This happens to be an aging Boeing 747-400, but in a few months it will get replaced by a superjumbo A380.* Can you see someone iPodding or texting up there? I can:
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*No, contrary to what the Mayor’s Office tells you, the A380 doesn’t use less fuel than legacy aircraft. And the version that’ll soon be coming to SFO each and every day has wings that are too big for its body, and it’s overweight, and blah blah blah. But oh well.
Daily Jumbo Jet Flights To Frankfurt Soon to Use Slightly Larger Airbus A380 – Lufthansa A New Deity for SFO’s Cargo CultMonday, January 31st, 2011
Where to begin on this one, uh, how about this bit from just last week talking about how long SFO has been waiting for the arrival of regular A380 service.
All right, well, as you might know by now, the news just recently came out about how Lufthansa is going to use Airbus A380′s instead of Boeing 747-400′s on daily flights from Frankfurt, Germany.
Is this really a “windfall,” as the Mayor said (or actually, as the Mayor’s holdover staff wrote)? Well, probably not, as a windfall is something you luck into, like when coconuts fall into your arms from a stiff breeze.
And actually, SFO has been planning for the arrival of A380 for more than a decade now.
Here’s what it means to be “A380 ready.” See how one plane has three jetways in its gate? That’s one of the ways you can tell that SFO readied itself for the A380.
But actually, what we’re doing is losing service from one double-decker jumbo jet and gaining service from another, slightly bigger, jumbo jet.
Is the A380 really “the world’s most fuel-efficient aircraft” as the Mayor says it is?
Nope. A Boeing 747 or 777 making the same flight would burn less fuel.
And will these kinds of flights “help appease Peninsula residents who for decades have complained that it’s too loud to live near the airport or under flight paths?”
Nope, not in the least.
And are some A380′s still grounded due to an issue with Rolls Royce Trent 900 engines?
And does Lufthansa use A380′s with Rolls Royce Trent 900 engines (instead of the more American, less blow-uppy Engine Alliance GP7200 engines?”
(Oh, in other news, the reason why Qantas (oh, snap! “Qantas Incident” is like the most popular search term on Google these days it seems) left us for Texas is because them melon farmers down there paid the Aussies $3.5 million buckaroos to make the move.)
See the press releases, after the jump. Try to contain your excitement…
QANTAS Abandons S.F. for Texas – No More Qantas Rolls-Royce Ka-Booms over the 415 – SFO’s Airbus A380 Cargo CultTuesday, January 18th, 2011
How long has it been since three-star-rated former Mayor Gavin Newsom left office – has it been a week or two? Well, we’ll leave that to the judges and justices ‘n stuff, but, irregardless, it’s been long enough* for Qantas Airways Limited to announce that its abandoning the San Francisco Bay Area, g’night, mate.
Why? Well it’s ’cause they’ve been losing mad dollars on non-stop flights betwixt SFO and Cindy, Australia for donkey’s years. Enough is enough they figure, so future flights from Down Under will alight in Dallas, Texas. (Some Bay area travel(l)ers are not amused, not at all.)
Now, weren’t we due for superjumbo Airbus A380 double-decker service by now for those non-stop flights to Oz? Oh yes, but instead of getting that, we’re losing the non-stop, regular-jumbo Boeing 747-400 service we have now. I know what you’re thinking, you’re thinking how could this be, San Francisco is a “natural amphitheater,” a “world-class” city even. Well, not anymore, or at least SFO isn’t a “world-class” airport anymore.
However, there’s a silver lining. You see, them Rolls-Royce engines, those RB211′s and those Trents 500 and up, well they blow up sometimes, ka-boom! Call it an “uncontained failure” they do. And QANTAS well, that’s pretty much all they run these days, the Rolls-Royce. (Just look at Australia’s national flag, why not, for the reason.) So, less Qantas = less less RR = less ka-boom over our heads.
For example, check out this Qantas flight out of SFO just last summer. It had passed the Farallones with almost full tanks and then, kaboom, Rolls-Royce engine #4 exploded. Oh well. Everybody made it back safe tho. Check it on the YouTube.
Flight 74 getting a little sparky high above the deep briny – not what you want to see looking out your window. Time to dump your avgas and circle back to Millbrae:
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I hear you, you’re saying that’s the old Rolls-Royce. But, you know, that Qantas A380 engine that blewed up just after leaving Singapore late last year, that’s the new RR – indeed, that was a fairly recent vintage Trent 900 engine that destroyed itself. Oh well. The Aussie A380s have been patched up and now Qantas is flying them as far as they want again, to Los Angeles among other places. But not very long after the flights started again, yet another Qantas Rolls Royce engine went kaboom - this one was a contained failure, so that’s some consolation, anyway. Check it:
“A Qantas spokeswoman said yesterday the Rolls-Royce RB-211 engine would be replaced and the aircraft would be in service shortly. She said the latest incident involving Qantas jets and Rolls-Royce engines did not indicate any pattern of trouble. ”We certainly don’t view it that way at all,’ the spokeswoman said.”
O.K. fine. Whatever you say, lady.
Now with the SFO cargo cult. Leave us review:
“Cargo cult activity increased significantly during and immediately after World War II, when the residents of these in some Pacific islands observed the Japanese and American combatants bringing in large amounts of material. When the war ended, the military bases closed and the flow of goods and materials ceased. In an attempt to attract further deliveries of goods, followers of the cults engaged in ritualistic practices such as building crude imitation landing strips, aircraft and radio equipment, and mimicking the behaviour that they had observed of the military personnel operating them.”
See where I’m going here? Didn’t we just get done re-doing SFO so that we could handle five or six A380 superjumbos at a time? Hells yes! We saw a few test runs from aircraft with Airbus, Emirates and Qantas livery over the past few years.**
But those big metal birds didn’t come back.
No cargo for us.
So am I saying that it was a stupid idea for SFO to prepare for the Age of the Super Jumbo Jet? No, not really. I don’t know all the deets of how things costed out, and who knows, it wasn’t impossible that official San Francisco’s dream of somehow besting Los Angeles could have eventually worked out. But if you could have seen how proud SFO officials were of their A380-only, double decker jet bridges in the new International Terminal back in the day, well, you’d be thinking cargo cult too.
Who knows what the future will bring. International air travel will increase like gangbusters over the coming decade, so we’ll probably get some use out of those dusty double-decker jetways sooner or later. And maybe then Qantas will be back, with or without A380s. (The Q has abandoned us before, and we made do.) Or maybe Emirates will get a little more MPG from the non-Rolls-Royce, American-made GP7200 engines on their A380s so they’ll be able to make a non-stop superjumbo hop to the Bay Area from the Mid-East. Maybe.
(And maybe by that time SFO will be called Willie Lewis Brown Jr. International Airport, I’m seriously, that’s what the other former Mayor of SF wants, he wants us to chuck the extremely well-known SFO moniker for WLB. Can you imagine?)
Anywho, if you want to go Sydney after May 2011, your only choice will be United Airlines. Now, that flight is on an old jet that the President of United says is “unacceptable,” but at least you don’t have to fly to Los Angeles on your way Down Under.
So long, Qantas.
*They waited a only a few days – what a joke!
**Man, what a load this was:
“Sensitive to the politically charged nature of outsourcing and offshoring, the Airbus chairman for North America, Allan McArtor, said 50 percent of the A380′s components are being made in the United States. McArtor hailed the new aircraft as quieter and more fuel efficient than wide-body jetliners of the past. Final assembly of the plane will be done in Toulouse, with the first test flights scheduled for next year.”
50% American content? Absolutely not. There’s a bit of American content in A380′s (some of them have more and some less) but it ain’t nowhere near 50% and there’s no way it could have been 50%. Airbus is run by the Euros – why would they go out of their way to employ Americans?
“G’Day Airbus! Qantas A380 Arrives at SFO
“On January 14, 2009, SFO welcomed Qantas Airways’ new A380 as it arrived from Sydney – the first Airbus A380 to bring scheduled passengers to SFO. The aircraft’s arrival was celebrated with a party at its gate in the International Terminal. Sponsored by Tourism Australia, the party featured Australian music, meat pies and sausage rolls, and a kangaroo.
The International Terminal, which opened in December 2000, was specifically designed to easily handle the arrivals and departures of large capacity airplanes such as the A380, the largest passenger aircraft in the world.
“SFO’s International Terminal, with the country’s only built-in A380-ready gates, is the future for comfortable and convenient international air travel,” said John L. Martin, Director of San Francisco International Airport. “We welcome visitors from our sister city, Sydney, and look forward to offering regularly scheduled Airbus flights and connections for all of our international visitors.”
The International Terminal features five gates that can be used by the A380 – three with double loading bridges and two with triple loading bridges. SFO was the first airport in the United States to offer triple loading bridges. The third loading bridge extends to the A380’s top deck, which allows the aircraft’s 500-plus passengers to be conveniently and directly loaded or off-loaded from the gate to the aircraft in 40 minutes – approximately the same time it takes to load a 747-400. Moreover, SFO can accommodate a rapid turnaround for the Airbus. SFO is the only airport in the United States with such a high level of built-in readiness.
Qantas currently offers daily nonstop service between SFO and Sydney on its 747-400 aircraft. The airline plans to bring its A380 aircraft to San Francisco on a regular basis in the next few years.
The Bay Area is running out of airport so a big study is going on to try to see what to do.
Maybe some of our smaller airfields could pick up some of the load, or maybe the military could pitch in, somehow.
Anyway, they’re holding public meetings soon so why don’t you get in on the fun?
Monday, May 10, 2010, 7 pm – 9 pm
Municipal Services Center
33 Arroyo Drive, South San Francisco
Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 7 pm – 9 pm
First Floor, Multipurpose Room
675 Texas Street, Fairfield
Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 7 pm – 9 pm
Port of Oakland Exhibit Room
530 Water Street, Oakland
Are a lot more bigger airplanes in our future? How many 1000-passsenger Airbus A380-1000′s (or more realistically, 900-passenger A380-900′s) will we need?
A watery welcome for a big boy A380-800 (called El Gordo by pilotos) at SFO not too long ago:
At least there’s room for a horseshoe bar in a superjumbo. As seen over the Farallones:
If we can’t have more better runways at sometimes-foggy SFO, then look forward to ever bigger aircraft, for better or worse…
All right, see you there at those meetings.
All the deets, after the jump.
And here’s a comment from knowledgeable ActionNewsSF. (7500 Followers Can’t Be Wrong.)
“Interesting topic. After reading this article, I spoke with an “aviation expert”. We both agreed that either Buchanan Field in Concord or the Livermore Airport makes the best sense. We were surprised that the Livermore Airport is not on this map. The challenges for both of these locations would be selling to the residents who live near the airports.
Livermore is a great location due to its proximity to Modesto, Stockton, and Sacramento. An upgrade to Highway 84 and Vasco Road could makes this a very attractive site.
Concord is a good location because it is on a BART line and close to Solano County, Stockton and Sacramento.
Moffett is too close to SFO and SJC.
Byron is too far for 580 and upgrading an airport there means we have to build more freeways and extend BART to the middle of nowhere.
Napa would mean major upgrades to Highways 29, 12, and 37. This airport would really only be able to serve Napa, Solano and possibly Sonoma Counties. There really is no major transit line that serves this area. You know what that means? 30 years after it’s built, we’ll have to spend billions extending BART across the Carquinez Strait and through Vallejo.
Travis AFB in Fairfield is a possibility, but really too far from the Greater Bay Area. Once again, this means major upgrades to an already congested I-80.
Hopefully existing infrastructure and having to deal with the restrictions of nearby residents, something San Jose has to deal with, will be considered. I also hope that any future project will not waste our money, as the MTC did recently by renaming the Translink card.”
Does this huge, somewhat ungainly superjumbo jet seen above SFO today look somewhat familiar? It should, as we’ve seen its kind before. But Qantas is proud that it has the first scheduled Airbus A380 flight into San Francisco. These paying passengers came all the way from Cindy, Australia.
Check out the photos of our welcome at the International Terminal. (The kangaroo QANTAS had in Sydney yesterday at the start of the flight was a bit more lively than the specimen we had this morning at SFO, it appears. And for some reason, the Emirates A380 seems to be more luxurious. And there was no sign of Ralph Fiennes. But that’s not the problem.)
The problem is that this is all a tease and the big new metal bird is going to spend its time in sunny Los Angeles. Why? Read on.
The A380-800 looks stubby because it is. Its wings is too big for its body! But that will pay off once stretched models start coming out in a few years. Then this series of aircraft will look better proportioned, more like the graceful stretched Boeing 747. Click to expand:
Now back a half-year ago, the Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services got all huffy at LAX and threatened that it would “move its flagship Airbus A380 services to San Francisco” unless Los Angeles upgraded its facilities.
Of course we’ve got mad upgrades up here in the 415. But not as many Australians want to come to the Bay Area compared with SoCal, and Oneworld connections with American Airlines are easier in LAX than in the Bay Area, and yada yada yada. So Qantas and El Lay patched things up and S.F. got left at the altar.
We’ll have to make do with regular old 747 service to Oz for a while longer anyway. But our cargo cult terminal upgrades for the new superjumbos should be worth the effort down the road, especially when the economy recovers.
And these days you can fly down under for cheap, so check the details after the jump.