Posts Tagged ‘Chris Bucchere’

The Most Detailed Report of the Chris Bucchere vs. Sutchi Hui Hearing – Why Red/Yellow Doesn’t Really Matter

Tuesday, March 19th, 2013

Well, here it is, the most-detailed report yet of the latest Chris Bucchere vs. Sutchi Hui hearing, courtesy of  writer Kashmir Hill.

Here’s her conclusion:

Bucchere was going far too fast, but he may have run a very late yellow rather than a red, a mistake made worse because of the pedestrians entering the crosswalk very early. Everyone was being too aggressive in their commuting, but Bucchere’s aggressiveness held the highest risk for others.”

And here’s some more:

“The case interested me because press reports indicated that data from Bucchere’s Strava account — an app that bikers can use to track their rides — had been used to show how fast he had been going and to prove he had ignored stop signs. District Attorney George Gascón told me the Strava data was part of the reason the city had decided to bring such severe charges against Bucchere. ‘It implies he was trying to compete with himself,‘ Gascón said. Bucchere’s online comments also played a role. ‘His helmet was more important than a human being.’”

Take a look for yourself, read the whole thing. And then decide if the prosecution of Chris Bucchere has anything to do with a so-called “lynch mob.”

And for all you StreetsBlogSF fans out there, ask yourself this:

Would this case be international news without the Strava race-against-yourself-and others angle and/or the “heroic” helmet posting? And would there even be a case at all?

That’s the difference, that’s why this case is getting attention.

R.I.P. Sutchi Hui.

YouTube: What It Looks Like When a Pedestrian Gets Clobbered by a Bicycle Rider at Market and Van Ness

Monday, March 11th, 2013

First, let’s review so-called BikeLaw:

“Pedestrians Always Have the Right of Way.”

Now take a look at what happened to Andrew Scal, the latest San Francisco pedestrian to get clobbered by a bike on Market Street:

What It Looks Like to Get Hit By A Bike

See? The poor guy had the right of way (per the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition, anyway) and yet he got hit by a cyclist.

Oh well…

Hey, now let’s see what the SFBC has to say about speeding cyclist Chris Bucchere:

This is it, all of it, apparently.

(Like Voldemort, they dare not speak his name?)

I guess taxpayer-funded lobbying groups such as the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition don’t want to discuss off-message topics

Oh well.

Uh, the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition is Giving Out Chocolate Bars for Those Who Are “Biking Polite?”

Tuesday, March 5th, 2013

Yep. See below.

Observations:

1. Can somebody tell me when our San Francisco Bicycle Coalition became a quasi-official government organization, and then later on also tell me when it becomes a full-fledged subsidiary of the SFMTA? I ask that because the SFBC gets a lot of funding from SFGov. (That’s why the SFBC stopped promoting Critical Mass – because its government paymasters kept bugging them about it.) And the SFBC got included in that whole corrupt lets-let-Twitter-not-pay-taxes deal? Yep. And yet, the SFBC is allowed to freely endorse candidates for Mayor, and I’ll tell you, not necessarily the candidates that SFBC membership votes for, no no, but for the candidates that the officers of the SFBC think will win, like Appointed Mayor Ed Lee, for example. Mmmm…

2. Uh, the SFBC is still promoting the whole PEDESTRIANS ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY trope? Yep. Even though that’s wrong. Dead wrong. Morally and legally. Here’s why. So, shouldn’t you have checked with a lawyer first, SFBC, you know, before you start spouting off about “BIKELAW”? (Oh, you did? Who’s that? Who’s that jackass?)

3. And, your attempts at moral suasion in this post-Chris Bucchere era have failed, SFBC. I say that because people be still being running red lights on Market Street, particularly the ones that are for ped crosswalks only, like betwixt 8th & 7th, and 7th & 6th, and 6th & 5th and so on. Your campaign has had no effect, FYI. I’ll show you right now. Everybody in this peloton has just run the red light (actually two red lights, sort of) on Market inbound betwixt 6th and 5th streets. Each and every one:

Now I’ll ask, is this kind of thing “biking politely?” (I already know the answers to my other questions, but I don’t know the answer to this one. I don’t know what the SFMTAMUNIDPTSFBC means when it talks about ‘biking polite.”) Oh, and BTW, 20 seconds after this shot was taken, you were rewarding these cyclists with candy bars on the other side of 5th, just saying.

Oh, here we go, here’s how the SFBC, a quasi-government organization, spends your tax dollars, on campaigns like this:

Now I’ll tell you, I didn’t stop to get a chocolate bar, but if I had I would have been able to win a Major Prize. Apparently, each bar had a code on it, kind of like a Willie Wonka movie.

Check it:

“We know that the majority of people biking in San Francisco are biking politely, and giving pedestrians the right of way. So we at the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition wanted to say thank you! Thank you for following the law, being a great bicycle aombassador and leading the way in safe, civil streets.

Stopping behind the crosswalk and giving pedestrians the right of way keeps people who are on foot safe and goes a long way to making our streets safer and more comfortable for everyone.

The San Francisco Bicycle Coalition will be giving out delicious treats for those we catch biking polite. If you “got caught” by us, enter your information and ticket number below and you’ll be entered for a chance to win a great getaway at the Bear Valley Inn. Thanks to Alter Eco for donating the delicious chocolate rewards!

Giving pedestrians the right of way is just one of the Rules of the Road to biking safely and legally. For more Rules of the Road click here.

Biking Polite Prize Raffle Entry Form:

You got caught biking polite! Thanks for stopping behind the crosswalk and yielding to pedestrians.In thanks for your terrific bicycle ambassador behavior, you’re eligible for entry into our raffle to win one night mid-week stay (Sunday – Thursday) at the Bear Valley Inn, Olema CA. Please enter your contact information here to enter our raffle; your information is confidential and will not be shared.”

On It Goes…

Look Ma, No Hands! – Heading West on the Panhandle Bike Path – Should This “Wilderness Trail” Be Widened?

Tuesday, January 8th, 2013

You know, before somebody, some ped gets clobbered?

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It will happen like this – a roadie traveling west, the downhill direction, will be “making time” or “flying” at 20-something MPH and s/he will clobber a pedestrian, perhaps Chris Bucchere-style.

So, I think wider would be better.

I mean, you wouldn’t want to narrow the thing, would you?

Slate.Com Wrote About San Francisco and Yelp and Cities.Data.Gov Today – But What Does It Mean?

Wednesday, September 5th, 2012

Take a look here:

The Most Important Information Missing From Yelp – Crowdsourcing sites and local government should pool their data to better inform consumers.”

Let’s check it:

“Last month, four major cities—San Francisco, New York City, Chicago, and Seattle—put statistics on things like crime reports, restaurant ratings, bed bug complaints, and public restroom locations online at cities.data.gov.”

So can we easily look up info about bed bugs in San Francisco on this newish website?

Nope!

Also:

“…a major frustration in urban centers is the amount of time spent trying to find a parking spot. To address this problem and improve air quality, San Francisco launched SFPark…”

So has SFPark reduced the amount of time spent trying to find a parking spot?

Nope!

And has SFPark improved air quality?

Nope!

SFPark is all about getting more money to the SFMTA, IRL.

Continuing:

“…consider the Bike Accident Tracker, a tool created by the Bay Citizen that mapped all reported bicycling accidents in San Francisco over a five-year period. On the map, the intersection of Market and Castro was identified as a hot spot…”

Uh, I think we kind of already knew about hot spots as the MSM regularly reports on them and it’s been doing that for donkey’s years.

Continuing:

” Just this past April a cyclist hit and killed a pedestrian at that same intersection, according the San Francisco Chronicle. If accident data were integrated with a site like Google Maps, making the critical information more easily available, is it possible that the deadly accident at Market and Castro could have been avoided? I’m not sure, but it’s worth looking into.”

Cyclist Chris Bucchere really, really liked Strava.com, and he really liked going fast downhill in urban areas, and he actually raised the idea of Strava segment “winners” (so-called “Kings of the Mountain”) “winning” coffee as an incentive/reward just a few days before the death of Sutchi Hui. I’m totally baffled how hot spot data dissemination would have affected anything.

All right, well that’s the first webpage of the article by Alissa Black (an ASU student?). I think I’ll stop here.

Uh, the reason why data about which hotels have bed bugs isn’t more widely disseminated is because the hotel industry doesn’t like that kind of thing.

And the reason why people walking into San Francisco restaurants don’t see a letter grade displayed out front is because the Golden Gate Restaurant Association doesn’t  want that kind of thing.

I don’t think the writer of the linked bit above understands how SF works.

JMO.

An Amazing Sight: Actual, Real Nuns in the Castro, Waiting for a Bus

Thursday, August 9th, 2012

On Castro near 17th and Market, near where pedestrian Sutchi Hui landed after getting hit by a bike rider earlier this year:

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Heretofore, I’d only seen, you know, the other kind of nun.

R.I.P. Sister Boom Boom.

The San Francisco Bicycle Coalition Talks About Chris Bucchere Without Talking About Chris Bucchere – Amazing

Wednesday, July 18th, 2012

OFF WE GO:

What About Scofflaw? – Perception, Reality and What We’re Doing About It – SF Bicycle Coalition, July 9th, 2012

SO THIS IS WHY SFGOV HANDS MONEY TO THE SAN FRANCISCO BIKE COALITION, SO IT CAN CREATE MAGNUM OPI SUCH AS THIS? OK FINE, LET’S HAVE A LOOK-SEE.

Scofflaw cyclists—the phrase is rolling off the pens of bloggers, journalists and commentators across the Bay Area.

DENY. DO A SEARCH YOURSELF AND YOU’LL FIND RECENT REFERENCES ONLY TO THIS VERY ARTICLE. OTOH, A SEARCH FOR CHRIS BUCCHERE TURNS UP LOTS OF ARTICLES AND COMMENTS. HEY, MAYBE, JUST MAYBE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHRIS BUCCHERE BUT YOU DON’T WANT TO SAY, “CHRIS BUCCHERE?” SEEMS THAT WAY. WHY IS THAT?

And while they’re focusing on this singular aspect, here at the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition, we’re helping direct the conversation to a broader, more comprehensive view of San Francisco’s diverse bicycling community and the responsibilities that all of us have on the road – when biking or driving.

OH, WAIT, ARE YOU DONE SETTING UP YOUR STRAW MEN ALREADY, SFBC? THAT WAS FAST!

We are busy talking about the significant San Francisco victories toward better biking—such as the dramatic 71% increase in the number of people biking in our city in the last five years. Thanks to the support of our 12,000 members, the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition is helping to Connect the City with streets that are inviting for people ages 8-to-80. And thanks to the success of Sunday Streets, parklets and bike corrals — projects we’ve had a strong hand in launching—our streets are more people-friendly and welcoming than ever before.

WELL, LET’S SEE. IS THE FIXIE CRAZE TOPPING OUT RIGHT ABOUT NOW? I THINK SO. HEY, HOW ABOUT MEMBERSHIP? I THINK SO, AGAIN. OH, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SALES PITCH. HURRAY FOR US! HURRAY FOR THE SFBC!

These are big successes, and they should be bigger stories in the media and in conversations with City, community and business leaders.

DISAGREE ABOUT YOUR SUCCESSES / FAILURES, SFBC.

Yet, lately, much of our energy has gone to answer one persistent question: What are you doing about those scofflaw cyclists?

SO, THIS QUESTION COMES FROM WHOM? FROM SFGOV, YOUR PATRON, YOUR SOURCE OF MONEY?

…lately, we’ve also noticed an increase in the amount of rude, and sometimes unsafe, behavior by some people on bikes, especially problematic along streets with lots of pedestrian use.

REALLY? HOW DOES THIS FIT IN WITH THE WHOLE 15-YEARS-AGO-ONLY-YOUTHFUL-MALES-RODE-BIKES-IN-SF MYTH, YOU KNOW THE ONE THAT GETS PROMOTED BY ELEMENTS OF THE SFBC? MMMM…

Other people are noticing too. We’ve been hearing from an increasing number of our own members, as well as political and community leaders, about this issue.

HEY, REMEMBER THE BICYCLE-PEDESTRIAN DEATHS? ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO THAT PART. CAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT’S THE REASON FOR THIS WHOLE DEAL, RIGHT? SRSLY, I HAVEN’T CHECKED YET, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO DANCE AROUND THE ENTIRE PED DEATH ISSUE? WE’LL SEE.

The thoughtless actions of a few are not only causing real safety problems, but also creating a negative image of San Francisco bike riders overall.

I GUESS THIS IS THE TOUGH-LOVE PART. IT’S NOT GOING TO WORK, THIS HECTORING, SFBC.

This is making it even more difficult for us to garner the support we need to get new, better bikeways on the ground.

UH, IS JFK DRIVE IN GOLDEN GATE PARK, FOR INSTANCE, A “BETTER BIKEWAY?” HEY, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS ONE? “New JFK bike lanes are bad for everyone.” WHY WOULDN’T STEVEN T JONES BE ABOARD WITH YOU ALL ON THIS ONE? MMMMM…

When we ride a bike, we are ambassadors for biking. It can sometimes feel like we are held to a higher level of scrutiny than other road users. Whether that’s true or not, all eyes are on us when we ride—particularly when we ride recklessly or rudely.

DOES THIS KIND OF HECTORING WORK? DO YOU THINK? I’M NOT SURE. OR ARE YOU DOING THIS EXERCISE MERELY SO YOU CAN SAY YOU DID IT? SO YOU CAN TELL SFGOV THAT YOU DID IT?

What can you do? First, make sure you’re clear on the Rules of the Road. We know that sometimes people break the law because they don’t know what the law is. Let’s be clear: pedestrians always have the right of way on our roads.

LET’S BE CLEAR, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY FALSE STATEMENT. IN CALIFORNIA, WHERE WE ALL LIVE. PEDESTRIANS DON’T ALWAYS HAVE  THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT’S WHY IT’S THEIR FAULT, FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN THEY DIE ON THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO.

The SF Bicycle Coalition is educating tens of thousands of San Franciscans about how to share the streets safely. We teach free Urban Bicycle Education classes for adults, Safe Routes to School programs for children, and reach tens of thousands more people each year with our printed and online safety materials that are available in three languages.

WHAT, ARE YOU AN SFGOV AGENCY NOW, JUSTIFYING YOUR BUDGET? ALMOST SOUNDS THAT WAY.

We are also spearheading efforts to educate drivers about how to safely share the road with people on bikes. This year, we expanded our education programs to include a course for all new San Francisco taxi drivers.

I’M SURE CABBIES-IN-TRAINING ALL LOVE IT! HEY, HOW ABOUT GETTING EVERY LAST SFMTA WORKER TO TAKE YOUR COURSE? YOU KNOW, A MANDATORY THING. YOU KNOW, SO MUNI DRIVERS WON’T EVER KILL ANYBODY AGAIN.

So far in 2012, the SF Bicycle Coalition has taught more than 2,000 people in our free adult and youth bicycle education classes, and reached more than 25,000 people with our Rules of the Road sheet.

TO WHAT END?

Of course, it’s not just about education. Our City needs to prioritize safety through purposeful enforcement of all road users and this should be done with priority toward those causing the most harm. The SF Bicycle Coalition is urging the SF Police Department (SFPD) to focus their efforts on the most dangerous behavior by road users at the known, most dangerous intersections. We know that drivers are responsible for the huge majority of injuries and fatalities to pedestrians on our streets, so this problem should receive the huge majority of enforcement attention.

UH, AREN’T PEDESTRIANS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INJURIES TO PEDESTRIANS. I THINK SO.

We’ve heard troubling accounts of the SFPD setting up stings to catch people on bicycles rolling through stop signs on quiet streets where no one else is around.

QUIET STREETS? REALLY, THEY’RE “QUIET?” WELL, IF YOU SAY SO. BUT WHAT YOU CALL “STINGS” ARE NOT REALLY STINGS, ARE THEY? THEY’RE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS IS WHAT THEY ARE WITH NOT A DROP OF DECEPTION.

This isn’t focusing on dangerous behaviors at dangerous intersections, and these tickets are not prioritizing the actual goal of making our streets safer for everyone.

I’M SORRY, WHY SHOULD THE SFPD LISTEN TO THIS? DO YOU CONTROL THEM? DO YOU CONTROL THEIR BUDGET? THEIR PENSIONS? SO WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY LISTEN TO YOU OVER EVERYBODY ELSE?

We agree with your phone calls, e-mails, tweets, Facebook posts, etc, complaining that these tickets should not be prioritized at a time that limited enforcement resources should be aimed at actual dangerous behavior.

UH, DIDN’T CHRIS BUCCHERE ENGAGE IN “ACTUAL DANGEROUS BEHAVIOR?” I THINK SO. AND WHAT ARE YOU SAYING HERE, YOU WANT RED LIGHT AND STOP SIGN RUNNING DECRIMINALIZED? SOUNDS THAT WAY.

We urge the SFPD and other City leadership to stop focusing on perceived problems as a reaction to media attention and, instead, to respond with appropriate enforcement where the real problems exist.

WOW: “…stop focusing on perceived problems as a reaction to media attention…” I SEE. SORT OF I GUESS. YOU’RE SAYING THE MEDIA’S TO BLAME FOR YOUR PROBLEMS, IS THAT IT, SFBC?

For years, we have urged the Police and other City partners to regularly and systematically review their own data on street crashes to identify hot spots and test approaches to reducing crashes in these locations. But this has not happened — yet. It’s true that this will require a shift of thinking and action by the SF Police Department. However, we feel encouraged that, thanks to enlightened leadership and new technology, the SFPD is ready to step up to this important opportunity.

THE OLD POLICE CHIEF(S) SUCKED, APPARENTLY, AND THERE’S SOME NEW “TECHNOLOGY” OUT THERE YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT BUT YOU WON’T TELL US ABOUT IT. OK FINE.

We all bear the responsibility of moving on our streets with courtesy and respect for others. Of course, this applies when driving, particularly given than the vast majority of people injured and killed on our streets because of dangerous or irresponsible behavior are people behind the wheel. In fact, between 10 and 20 pedestrians and between 1 and 2 bike riders are killed by people driving during an average year in San Francisco. That is unacceptable.

AREN’T THE PEDESTRIANS KILLED BY THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR? DO YOU WANT SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, LIKE DEAD PEDS THIS YEAR? A COMMERCIAL TRUCK DRIVER AND CYCLIST CHRIS BUCCHERE KILLED ONE EACH AND THE REST OF THE PEDS KILLED THIS YEAR WERE KILLED BY THEMSELVES, RIGHT?

Also unacceptable is that none of these fatalities caused by people driving received even one-tenth of the attention that the high-profile Market/Castro incident involving a person biking fatally hitting a pedestrian last March drew.

WELL, WHAT TO YOU WANT, A PED STEPS BETWEEN CARS INTO TRAFFIC AND GETS KILLED. FOR EXAMPLE. HOW MUCH ATTENTION SHOULD THAT KIND OF THING GET. OH I KNOW, WE SHOULD JUST TELL THE PEDS THAT THEY “ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY” EVEN THOUGH THEY DON’T. IS THAT HELPFUL?

Why? Precisely because the latter is so rare. Equally tragic, absolutely heartbreaking, but undeniably rare.

ALL RIGHT, I’LL DENY IT. IT’S NOT SO RARE THESE DAYS. SORRY.

Within just one week of that crash at Market and Castro Streets, there were two other pedestrian fatalities, both reportedly caused by people driving. Did you read anything about those?

UH, YES, ACTUALLY. AND WEREN’T THOSE DEATHS CAUSED BY THE JAYWALKERS THEMSELVES? LET’S SEE, ONE ON LOMBARD AND ONE ON HAYES. YES I DID READ ABOUT THOSE. IN THE MSM.

And in May, a 23-year-old San Francisco State University student, Robert Yegge, was bicycling when he was hit and killed by someone driving a truck on Oak and Franklin Streets. As of writing this, with the exception of a single story in Streetsblog, no media outlets covered his tragic death.

UH FALSE. AND IS STREETSBLOG REALLY A “MEDIA OUTLET?”  I THINK IT’S MORE LIKE A PAC. (SOME RICH GUY STARTED IT UP, APPARENTLY. I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE HE CAN GO WITH IT THOUGH.)

In fact, pedestrian deaths caused by people driving are seen as so commonplace that they draw shockingly little attention public or media attention. And that, in itself, is a tragedy.

DO YOU WANT ROBOTS DRIVING? THE PED DEATHS YOU SPEAK OF WERE CAUSED BY THE PEDS THEMSELVES.

[GIVE US MONEY, BLAH BLAH BLAH OMITTED]

[RAHM EMANUEL CHICAGO STUFF OMITTED]

[WORK FOR THE SFBC FOR FREE OMITTED]

On a daily basis, be a bicycle ambassador by being a great representative of San Francisco’s amazing, diverse and growing community of people who bicycle.

PROSE LIKE THAT GAGS, DOESN’T IT?

Stop behind the crosswalk, give pedestrians the right-of-way and others will follow.

SUGGESTION NOTED.

[AND THEN THE PITCH, ALWAYS WITH THE PITCH, OMITTED]

SO I GUESS THE NAME CHRIS BUCCHERE ISN’T GOING TO GET MENTIONED ANYWHERE AMONG THE THOUSANDS OF WORDS.

SO I GUESS THE PR HANDBOOK SAYS NOT TO.

OK FINE.

Rich White Lady from the Marina Times, Susan Dyer Reynolds, Calls for Bicycle Commuter Licensing and Insurance

Friday, July 6th, 2012

You know, because of the Chris Bucchere thing.

Here it is, or a part of it, anyway:

“With huge numbers of people biking to work on a daily basis, it may be time to look into licensing commuter bicyclists so they must take the same DMV tests motorcyclists and motorists take to ensure that they know the laws. It also seems that offenders should face some of the same punishments motorcyclists and motorists face, like points against their license. And if they’re going to be commuters, thus increasing the chances of accidents on city streets, perhaps they should also have to carry insurance. I’m not advocating these measures for the person who bikes through Golden Gate Park recreationally, one or two Sundays a month; but for everyday commuters, I think it makes sense.”

Oh, hold on, this post will need a photo.

Type Marina District into the Google, and this is what you’ll get:

Hair lightened and teeth whitened – I’ll have to try that one of these days. 

Now, where was I? Oh yes, uh, I seriously kind of don’t think you can require licensing and insurance for people who go to work on a bike and not for the people who go about solely in Golden Gate Park.

And points at the DMV, well, that would seem to penalize those with driver licenses more than those without, capiche? 

And Davis, CA? Is that our lodestar now, law enforcement-wise, rich white Marina Lady?

OK fine: 

Via Louise Macabitas

I drink your milkshake, Susan Dyer Reynolds!

I drink it up!

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Showing How STRAVA, Inc is Dealing with Its Legal Challenges: Here’s What the “Hyde Street Bomb!” Looks Like

Wednesday, June 20th, 2012

Take a look at this segment created by the “Strava Community” of troubled Strava, Inc. owners, managers, and/or users.

See? This is a bike trip down Nob Hill through the Tenderloin to the Mid Market:

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Note the innocuous-sounding title: Hyde/Market st.

But also note the URL up there. The name of this segment used to be “Hyde Street Bomb!” But that doesn’t look so hot when you’re in the national news for getting sued.

Oh, here it is, have a go on the YouTube – will the cyclist beat all those cagers in Priuseses what stop for red lights? Hells yes:

Now, do you think that the “Strava Community” might have had an effect on the behavior of this cyclist?

You Make The Call.

And oh, here’s how that Strava webpage looked before, was it just a day ago? Two days ago? I don’t know. But this is quite a recent change. Alls I know is that somebody in the “Strava Community,” be it an owner, manager, legal advisor, person following instructions from a legal advisor, cyclist, or, really, anybody in the entire world, created this segment and/or edited it.

The people at Strava, Inc. aren’t what you call transparent, so it’s hard to tell.

Anyway, here’s your Hyde Street Bomb!

Does registering for Strava and racing down Nob Hill in this fashion make you an “athlete?”

Again, You Make The Call.

So Let’s Hear From Michael Horvath, CEO and Co-Founder of Troubled, SF-Based STRAVA, Inc. – Lawsuit Blog Post

Tuesday, June 19th, 2012

Well here’s The Statement, from a few days back:

“Stand with Us”

UH, “STAND WITH US” WHILE WE GET SUED INTO OBLIVION? IS THAT WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE EVE OF THE NEWS OF YOUR BIG WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT? OK.

“Posted by Michael Horvath on June 17th, 2012″

JUNE 17TH – LOOK AT THE TIMING, JUST BEFORE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. MMMM…

Each and every day we strive to improve Strava for you,­ the athlete. We are athletes too, just like you.

LET’S SEE HERE, SIGNING UP FOR STRAVA = BEING AN ATHLETE. GOT IT. YOU DON’T HAVE TO TELL ME TWICE. OH,  WELL I GUESS YOU JUST DID. UH, ALL RIGHT, YOU DON’T HAVE TO TELL ME _THREE_ TIMES.

As the Strava community grows, we all need to follow a few simple guideposts to ensure that Strava’s impact is positive.

GUIDEPOSTS AND NOT RULES? ALL RIGHT.

This is what we, the Strava community, stand for:

NOW WAIT A SECOND, AREN’T YOU THE FOUNDER AND CEO, MICHAEL HORVATH? I THINK SO. BUT ARE YOU A PART OF THE “STRAVA COMMUNITY?” REALLY? BUT _YOUR_ COMPANY IS GETTING SUED THOUGH, RIGHT? NOT THE “ATHLETES” WHAT MAKE UP YOUR USER BASE. I THINK YOU ARE CONFLATING THE OWNERS/MANAGERS OF STRAVA WITH THE USERS OF STRAVA, JUST SAYING. ALL RIGHT, OFF YOU GO THEN…

We know the rules. Laws and rules are created for our protection. Cycling, running and swimming are inherently dangerous and following the law, and common sense, when it comes to traffic, weather, or conditions, reduces our odds of getting hurt or hurting others. It’s as simple as that.

SO, I’LL STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE MY TIMES POSTED SHOWING ME GOING 20 MPH OVER THE LIMIT? CAUSE, YOU SEE, THAT’S NOT FOLLOWING THE “LAWS,” RIGHT? BUT I GUESS, AFTER YOU TALKED WITH A LAWYER OR TWO, YOU’RE TELLING YOUR USERS, THE SAINTED “ATHLETES” YOU WRITE ABOUT, TO FOLLOW THE LAW? OK FINE.

We rest. We listen to our bodies to avoid injury and we inspire in ways other than by being #1. We don’t burn ourselves out. We enjoy our recovery days because they too tell our story on Strava.

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH YOU BEING SUED? DOES THIS EVEN BELONG HERE?

We kudo sportsmanship. We all want to get kudos by being great at our sport. We are courteous and treat others with respect. We earn our spots on the leaderboards through clean competition.

UH, KUDO IS NOT A VERB, RIGHT? OK YOU KNOW THAT BUT YOU’RE BREAKING NEW GROUND, OK FINE. UH, IS BIKE-RIDING A SPORT? I THINK I’M SEEING THE PROBLEM HERE. WAS CHRIS BUCCHERE ENGAGING IN SPORT WHEN HE WAS GOING WAY TOO FAST ACROSS MARKET STREET? SHOULD HE HAVE BEEN? IS DRIVING A CAR DOWN MARKET STREET A SPORT? SHOULD IT BE? I DON’T THINK SO. AND IF MEMBERS OF THE “STRAVA COMMUNITY” AREN’T COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL, DO THEY GET COUNSELING OR SOMETHING? OR DO THEY JUST GET KICKED OUT? CAUSE  I CAN THINK OF A FEW OF YOUR MEMBERS WHO HAVEN’T KILLED THEMSELVES/OTHERS, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY’RE NOT AS WELL-KNOWN AS SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE STRAVA FAMILY, BUT THEY DON’T MEET YOUR STANDARD AS STATED HERE – THEY AIN’T COURTEOUS/RESPECTFUL AT ALL. AND LASTLY, DOES “CLEAN COMPETITION” INCLUDE RUNNING RED LIGHTS? I’M NOT SURE.

We think ahead. We showcase a lot of awesome data about where we go, who we work out with and how hard we push ourselves. If we don’t want everyone to know what we’re up to, we take the necessary privacy precautions before we upload, like setting privacy zones and choosing who can follow us and what they can see.

UH ISN’T THIS A MISH-MASH OF THREE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS?

We’ve got each other’s backs. We watch out for one another. The community does what it can to keep things safe for everyone by looking out for potentially dangerous situations and flagging segments as hazardous.

SO, SELF-POLICING IS THE ORDER OF THE DAY AT STRAVA? HEY, DIDN’T THE “SOUTH PARK DESCENT” GET FLAGGED AFTER KIM FLINT’S DEATH? I THINK IT DID. BUT DIDN’T IT COME BACK, COURTESY OF THE “STRAVA COMMUNITY?” YES IT DID, AND WITH HIGHER SPEEDS THAN WHAT KIM FLINT “ACHIEVED.”

If you want to be part of the Strava community, we’d like you to stand with us and take these guideposts to heart.

SO, YOU’RE GOING TO START KICKING PEOPLE OUT? ALL RIGHT. I DON’T BELIEVE WHAT YOU AND YOUR LAWYERS ARE SAYING HERE, BUT ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU STILL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT KIM FLINT OR CHRIS BUCCHERE?

ALL RIGHT.

Now, let’s hear from Paul Kapustka of Mobile Sports Report:

“Something tells us that if lawyers are getting involved, it’s not going to be as simple as a statement on a blog to prove that Strava.com’s competitions didn’t cause harm. Or that the bad apples aren’t a part of the Strava.com community. There are going to be many who decry the lawsuit as some part of a nanny-state weirdness, but there is probably some legitimate question to be asked whether or not a site that promotes virtual competitions on real streets and trails is responsible for the participants’ actions, much in the way a 10K race must take out insurance to cover its runners. I have a feeling this may be the tip of the iceberg for such sites like Strava.com.”