As seen above City Target West in Mervyn’s Heights, Geary and Masonic:
Nice flag-keeping there, City Centre Mall!
Well this is how things were shaping up way back last year, when the fun-loving North Bay Bros of Autodesk teamed up with East Bay radio personality
Sandy Beach, J Crew, Sam Francisco, Greek Aphrodite, oh, “Roman Mars” to redesign our official flag.
Now, at the time, the plan was to have a contest or something with a “San Francisco official” giving input, you know, for color of authority. But here in the West Bay, this scheme might not be all that popular, so I was wondering who was going to step up to climb up the flagpole / lightning rod, you know, for no good reason.
Well, nobody’s stepped up yet, just saying. So that means things are behind schedule, since all this was supposed to get going last year.
And when I say things, I mean, there’s no way that you could come up with one new flag design that would get voted in over the current version, so the effort is to first get people to agree to chuck the old flag and only then come up with the replacement. The auslanders have decided on a two-stage process for us.
And when I say voted in, I mean that the People Of SF would eventually be able to weigh in with big fat VETO stamp, in one fashion or another. (Remember when Our Designerly Community tried to wholesale change the official flag of Iraq? It didn’t go so hot. That’s something to consider, College Boy. And remember this recent attempt to change the UC logo? (I wonder if we ever got our money back for that one?))
And I mean that Mayor Ed Lee right now has never been more unpopular right? So, who’s going to step up to shepherd this New Flag plan?
I know not.
Anyway, let’s see if 2016 shakes out better for this misguided effort…
Via KQED – oh, I see.
Interestingly enough, elements of the designerly community plus a North Bay tech firm’s marketing department are colluding to ban our current Oro en Paz, Fierro en Guerra City of San Francisco rising phoenix flag and replace it with something like Chicago‘s, or something.
Until that time, look forward to more 41510-style SF/Oakland mashup logos from our SFPD Academy.
Opposition is mounting against the recent push to ashcan our San Francisco flag.
Here’s what San Franciscans are so opposed to, this Party Line:
Isn’t this along the line of YOUR VACUUM CLEANER SUCKS – MR DYSON HAS A PLAN TO FIX IT, BY SELLING YOU … A DYSON MODEL?
Hey, but maybe your non-designer, non-Dyson, SHARK ROTATOR vacuum bought on sale for $159.99 from Costco #144 is actually BETTER / CHEAPER (it depends on the model*) than anything Mr. Dyson can sell you, what about that?
Here’s the plan these, these people have, the plan is to try to make Friscans dissatisfied with Our Flag and then, only after starting up some high-profile contest, would we consider which new design to pick.
But here you go, this is what the Designerly Community has in mind from the get-go, something like this…
Is this what you want, Frisco?
All right, we’ll just have to wait and see how many “city officials” will join in this marketing effort for a North Bay tech firm, how many electeds will bring “color of authority” to this misinformed effort.
I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. Amen.
END OF LINE
*Look at the half-pint motor on this thing – it’s not even a real Dyson, it’s like a loss leader, except it costs a mint. C’mon!
Here it is, a shot via c_nilsen, showing fringe upon fringe:
The yellow border, now reproduced as a part of the flag was originally intended to be a gold fringe, but mistakenly became incorporated into the design. When used indoors, as is the custom, a gold fringe is added to what was originally intended to be the fringe.
Now say what you will about the current version of our phoenix flag, regardless of that, I’ll concede that this fringe upon fringe look, used for ceremonies mostly, looks stupid.
So, there. Room for common ground with the pay-us-money-to-follow-this-year’s-fashion designerly community.
Up next? #2 That stupid-looking cartoon bird…
Here it is: http://www.sanfranciscoflag.com/
1. First of all, that’s a nice old-tyme skyline photo you got there – what is it, pre-Cosco Busan? It’s certainly pre-One Rincon – that’s what jumps out at me. Hey, does “good design” prevent giving credit for the best element of your new website? Let’s fix that: Christian Mehlführer, AKA User: Chmehl. of Vienna, Austria. Bro goes around the world, around the wo-orld to take good photos, right?
2. The designerly name: “Roman Mars.” Mmmm… (It detracts, it distracts, non?) Well, my name is Ares Greek – pleased to meet you!
3. Ted Talk? Strike two!
4. Driving people to an 18-minute video instead of typing out your manifesto with bullet points? Does that work? (It didn’t work on me, sorry.)
5. Already being on double-secret logo probation for supporting UC’s recent inchoate “good-design” logo/monogram/whatever effort.
So those are the comments.
1. 99% Invisible is 99% good. It’s excellent, you know, generally, when it’s not taking time out to defend the Designerly Community.
2. The Bros of AutoDesk are all right as well. Just look at them maintaining focus under heavy pressure back when the Bay to Breakers fun run wasn’t completely shaped by an unholy alliance of Christian Billionaire Philip Anschutz + touchy millionaire NIMBY homeowners:
But why would Autodesk want to kill our flag?
I’ll tell you, our flag is bad-ass. Look what you can do with it:
You want to talk history? Let’s talk history – see below, from the Wiki.
In closing, The Bird Is The Word. And if you succeed* in changing it significantly, I’ll work tirelessly to get it changed back.
END OF LINE.
“the reason people don’t use it often is kind of an obvious one: it’s not very good.” UH, NOPE! “OBVIOUS” TO YOU, PERHAPS.
“a symbol that San Franciscans tend to rally behind” UH, COULD THERE BE _OTHER_ REASONS WE DON’T “TEND TO RALLY BEHIND” ANY PARTICULAR SYMBOL?
“overhaul?” YOU MEAN _COMPLETELY REPLACE_, RIGHT?
“design community?” AHAHAHAHAHAHA! “WE FEW, WE PROUD, DESIGNERLY FEW!”
“Does it really matter if San Francisco has a better flag or not?” GOOD QUESTION. NOPE!
“San Francisco has a chance to define its values through an enduring, recognizable symbol.” MEH. BUT IF YOU WANT TO GET STARTED, HIRE A LOBBYIST TO START LOBBYING THE SUPES. IT’LL RUN YOU SOMETHING LIKE $10,000 A MONTH FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS. WELCOME TO FRISCO, OAKLANDER. P.S. HEY, GUESS WHAT – YOUR FLAG SUCKS TOO. IT VIOLATES ALL THE RULES ME AND MY CREW MADE UP. LET’S CHANGE IT NOW. TO WHAT, I DON’T KNOW, I WON’T SAY. JUST ANYTHING BUT AN OAK TREE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN DONE, LIKE BY PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND MANY OTHERS. PLUS, IT SAYS “OAKLAND” RIGHT ON THE THING. WHAT COULD BE MORE BANAL? KELL DOMAGE!
Caption from “War & Dissent: The U.S. in the Philippines, 1898-1902″ exhibit. Curated by Randolph Delehanty, Ph.D. of the Presidio Trust.
“In 1900, banker and art patron Mayor James Duval Phelan, mayor from 1897 to 1902, recommended to the Board of Supervisors that San Francisco adopt a flag and motto. Over 100 designs were submitted and John M. Gamble’s proposal was selected. It depicts a phoenix rising from its ashes on a white field. The mythological phoenix appears in many ancient cultures and is a symbol of immortality. When the long-lived phoenix feels death is near, it builds a nest of aromatic wood and sets it afire. A new phoenix then arises from the ashes, just as San Francisco arose from the great fires of the 1850s. The motto “Oro en paz y fierro en guerra” “Gold in Peace and Iron in War” refers to the city’s then-recent experience during the Spanish–American War as the embarkation point for troops to the Philippines in 1898.”
**See how that works? The high school student who hasn’t actually hurt anybody IRLAFAIK is described as one who has “hurt a lot of people.” And in this town, some who are convicted of homicides end up getting probation or something like several months in jail…
Coming to save the melon-farming da-a-ay:
Here’s the scene down in Civic Center, with 18 flags in front of the Highest* Classical Dome in the Western Hemisphere (and fifth-highest in the world, I believe):
You can see the state flag of Texas camera left, red side down, as it’s supposed to be.
But here’s how things look these days:
See? It’s flying butter-side-down:
IDK if this is being done on purpose, as a dig against Our Great Competitor, or if this is being done out of ignorance. It’s been this way for a while – this isn’t just a one-day thing. (Maybe we’re still mad about losing QANTAS to Dallas/Fort Worth.)
Now, is the 415 an unlikely place for the Lone Star Flag? Some think so:
Here’s your answer:
“The name and star [of CA’s original flag] are said to be inspired by Texas, so maybe that’s why that state got included.”
*Yes, higher than the Capitol Dome in DC. By like a foot or two. On purpose. And any other dome you’re thinking about isn’t classical and/or it’s in the eastern hemisphere…