Am I missing something?
Does this look like a cell phone to you?
It doesn’t to me.
All the deets, as of last year…
“Update on Officer Involved Shooting: GSR found on suspect’s hand
Posted Date: 7/19/2011
As stated by Chief Suhr during Monday’s press conference, information pertaining to the investigation of the officer involved shooting that occurred on Saturday, July 16, 2011 would be released as it becomes available.
Results from the analysis of evidence collected from the hands of Kenneth Harding revealed that GSR (gunshot residue) was present on Harding’s right hand. The presence of gunshot residue on Harding’s right hand supports statements from witnesses that Harding held the gun in his right hand as he fired at the police officers.
The presence of GSR on an individual’s hands indicates that either: the individual fired a gun, the individual was in close proximity to a gun as it was discharged or that the individual touched a gun or other object with GSR on its surface and particles were transferred to his/her hands.
No GSR was detected on Harding’s left hand.”
The SFPD’s Shotspotter* map indicating the order and location of triangulated shot locations:
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Here’s a bigger picture via Google Maps:
The distance across the street from the place where Kenneth Harding fell from the location where shots 2-8 were fired is about 55 feet.
One protest is at 5:00 PM on July 19th and the Community Meeting is at 6:00 PM on July 20th.
*A Shot Spotter sensor looks one of these things, most likely:
Here it is:
“Community Meeting this Wednesday, 7/20 at 6:00pm at the Bayview Opera House (3rd Street at Oakdale Ave.). Please join us to discuss the recent shooting. Questions? Call (415) 554-7670.”
And here’s the SFPD invite for the same event:
Police Chief Greg Suhr will conduct a community meeting on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 at The Bayview Opera House, 4075 Third Street, at 6:00pm. The meeting will focus on the recent officer involved shooting at Third Street and Palou Avenue.
For further information please contact the San Francisco Police Department Community Relations Unit by calling 415-734-3280, or emailing the unit at
Oh, and here’s the latest protest, skedded for July 19th, 2011 at Dolores Park:
|Title:||RAGE IN THE STREETS: Cops Kill Again!|
|START DATE:||Tuesday July 19|
|TIME:||5:00 PM – 7:00 PM|
|Dolores Park, 19th and Dolores, San Francisco|
[UPDATE: A protest will be on Tuesday night and the official meeting is on Wednesday night. And here's the Second Angle video that's just been posted. And Lilian Kim from ABC7 KGO-TV is all over this with a chat from the videographer who was on the scene. Oh, and the reason why I made this post yesterday is because the IndyBay crowd seemed a little confused over the existence of a gun - this might seem obvious now but it sure as heck wasn't 24 hours ago. And I'll agree with them that whatever got picked up after 1:15 doesn't look like a gun. (And it seems to be in a different location as well. I'm still baffled over this one...) And here's the SFPD SpotShotter map, just released.]
You can see video of the aftermath of yesterday’s SFPD shooting of Kenneth Harding at Third Street and Oakdale on YouTube here, here, and here. (It’s the same 3:28-length video, AFAIK.)
Here’s the scene at 0:15:
Does that look like a handgun? [Something like a silver Taurus Millenium PT138?]
[UPDATE 7-28-11: Oh, here it is, per the SFPD:
A little rusty from Seattle's climate? Could be, don't know.]
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At 1:15, somebody picks up something that was in the same general area, but that particular thing doesn’t particularly look like a handgun. It looks like something flat and rectangular.
I don’t know anything about this case, don’t know anything about this video or any gun or who picked up what or who put something where.
[UPDATE: Here's a comment on this issue that was just posted a few moments ago here:
@chuckdamailman You're talking about 1:23 into the video. That's not a handgun...it's a small rectangle object and I heard from some that it was his cell phone. Trust me, no gun would be that close to the police and they allow it to stay there. Ahmad770 21 minutes ago
@Ahmad770 15 seconds in bro.. there's a gun on the bottom right corner. not to say it was this young man's weapon, because it could have been anybody's gun. I'm just saying there is a gun in the video. this type of thing frustrates me to the point where I would like to do something. I won't say what that something is. These punk cowards are KILLING our youngsters out here!!! chuckdamailman 3 minutes ago]
[UPDATE: The SFPD weighs in. Oh, and they'll have a community meeting in the Bayview on this topic sometime this week, it's planned.
"Information on the Officer Involved Shooting
Posted Date: 7/17/2011
On Saturday, July 16, 2011 at 4:44pm two uniformed San Francisco Police officers were assigned to a fixed post at Third Street and Palou Street as part of a violence reduction program, in response to recent shootings in the area.
Information is still preliminary. The officers detained a 19 year old male suspect on the Muni light rail platform. This suspect then ran from the police officers who pursued him on foot. It appears that the suspect was armed with a gun and fired at the pursuing officers. At least one of the officers returned fire, in self defense, wounding the suspect. The suspect was transported to the hospital with life threatening injuries. He was pronounced deceased at 7:01 pm.
No officers were injured in this incident. The matter remains under investigation by the Internal Affairs Division (Officer Involved Shooting Team), the San Francisco District Attorney’s Office, the Office of Citizen’s Complaints and the SFPD Homicide Detail."]
[UPDATE: The SFPD weighs in again: