Posts Tagged ‘ram’

The Exact Wrong Way to Build a 15-Passenger Van – What GM Did Right and What Ford and Chrysler Did Wrong

Friday, June 27th, 2014

Here’s an old Chrysler van. Can you see the rear extension they simply tacked on to the end of the thing? See how they left the wheels in the same place as on the shorter 12-passenger version?

Bad form – a half-assed design on the cheap:

Check it:

The Ford design was to lengthen the body over the same frame as smaller vehicles. GM  increased the wheelbase. Safety experts feel the GM approach is the safer design.

And:

Passenger vans (Econoline Wagons/Club Wagons) could seat between two and 12 passengers, depending on the number of seats installed; standard-length wagons typically held two bench seats behind the driver. In 1978, a 15-passenger “Super Wagon” was introduced on the same wheelbase as the standard-length van, using a body extension added to the rear of the vehicle.

At the very least, you should load up people from the front on these rigs.

At the very least…

A Christian Corsair and His White Ram: TRUCKIN’ 4 JESUS, CRUISIN’ WITH CHRIST, OAKLAND RAIDERS, MOTO CROSS

Monday, June 24th, 2013

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Tomorrow’s News Today: Chrysler is Giving 14 Monster Trucks to San Francisco – That Thing Got a Hemi?

Monday, August 1st, 2011

As a matter of fact, yes, the 14 plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEV’s) what Chrysler Group LLC is going to give to the City and County of San Francisco tomorrow all have Hemi engines, monstrous V8, 5.7-litre Hemis, to be precise.

But, these big rigs also have an extra battery and electric motor for hybrid functionality PLUS members of the “City Family” will be able to plug in to the power grid to charge up the battery as well.

It’s going to look a little something like this, garish graphics and all:

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Now, if City workers are really careful, they’ll probably be able to go 15 miles about town solely on electric power, assuming that the battery is all charged up at the beginning of the day.

But what San Francisco probably really wants is an electric truck without a gas engine at all. Oh well. (It’s the same way with Mayor Ed Lee’s official staff car – why have them put the gas engine in at all if you don’t want it and you aren’t going to use it?)

BTW, Chrysler was a-gonna to build plug-in hybrid pick-em-ups like these in mass production for people living in Flyover Country, but then Big C realized that a project like this would lose money. Big Money. The More You Build, The More You Lose, kind of thing. Well, that idea got the kibosh.

But then the Feds said, well, here’s a few tens of millions of dollars we’ve got sitting around, so why don’t you take that money to build just 140 units instead, and then give these trucks away to America’s mayors?

And, since San Francisco is special, so very special, we’re getting 10% of the national supply.

Hurray?

“Who:
Edwin M. Lee, San Francisco Mayor
Abdullah Bazzi, Senior Manager – Chrysler Advanced Hybrid Vehicle Project, Chrysler Group LLC
Joe Roos, Assistant Vehicle Chief Engineer – Chrysler PHEV, Chrysler Group LLC
Steve Sokolsky, Calstart

Where:
Civic Center Plaza
San Francisco

Details:
Following the press conference, Ram 1500 Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles will be available for photo opportunities and a ride-and-drive around a city driving course. Media parking available in parking structure just off the Civic Center plaza.”

UPDATE: Well, it turns out that Sacramento is going to get 14 big rigs as well, so maybe we’re not all that special. In mitigation, Los Angeles and Fun Diego and the rest of SoCal, they’re getting nothing! Zero free trucks from Chrysler and Uncle Sucker. Eat it, L.A!

Ever more deets, after the jump.

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What’s Wrong With This 15-Passenger Van? You’ll Found Out the Next Time You’re On Jury Duty, Maybe

Tuesday, February 15th, 2011

Well, actually, we don’t get too many 15-passenger van rollover cases litigated in San Francisco County and/or the Bay Area ’cause we don’t have that many 15-passenger vans. That’s not how we roll.

But church groups in the Midwest, they be driving these things all over and they get into lots of rollover accidents. So much so, that the govmint has issued safety guidelines and there are “15-passenger van lawyers” just to handle these kinds of cases.

Anyway, just look at this thing parked near Golden Gate Park. The maker wanted to add a row of seats in the back but did a half-assed job. Instead of making the wheelbase longer, the manufacturer simply tacked on a Sir Mix-a-Lot butt.

See?

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There’s your problem right there.

I mean, there could be other issues too, but if you wanted to make a rollover machine, this is how you’d do it.

Just saying.

Stay safe…